AFP AUDIO INTERVIEW
Dave Gahary spoke with William J. “Bill” Makufka about his brother Scott’s (Victor’s) suicide, that has shaken the truth community in a way few could have predicted.
Due to the many questions and much speculation about Victor’s death, Bill reached out to AMERICAN FREE PRESS, and opened up about his relationship with his brother during their childhood and afterward and some of the details of the suicide, in this revealing interview (30:29).
Dave Gahary, a former submariner in the U.S. Navy, is the host of AFP’s ‘Underground Interview’ series. He prevailed in a suit brought by the New York Stock Exchange in an attempt to silence him.
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Suicide should always be the LAST conclusion, not the first! It is normal for family members to go into denial that a loved one committed suicide, rather than assuming automatically such a cause of death. And why has AFP chosen to assume someone like Thorn, who was in such a vulnerable position due to his successful exposes, had taken his own life? Something smells off here. I’m not buying it.
There are spooky parallels with the death of Dr. David Kelly in Oxfordshire England prior to the weapons inspector fiasco in the Iraq War. David was found on a hill having committed “suicide” at is favourite place for walks. In his case he cut his own wrists and bled out. It had nothing to do with the knowledge he had of the Chemical and Biological warfare programmes in the Middle East of course.
The lesson here is that if you mess with the Power Elite too much and risk exposing false flags you can expect to meet an early death.
My heart goes out to Victor’s loved ones – he was a true spiritual warrior against the forces of evil in this world and may the Lord welcome him to his bosom in the afterlife.
His brother is stating his opinion in the audio, not fact. If you choose to believe that it was a suicide to avoid any more tragedies to others OK, but I have to remain open to more disclosures. Doesn’t come close to the reasons why people commit suicide which Victor didn’t show. No suicide note, depression, poor health issues and from what I have read he had none of these.
Today is Sunday.August 26 2016. I have been with the inner circle for quite some time now.
I was having computer problems.so I decided to long in last night.and couldn’t believe what I was hearing..this is such devastating news.omg..was crying my eyes out.talk with scott on phone a few times.such an incredible intelligent yOung man..bought Dr Mcquate books.blue me away..would never guess in a million years he would would take his own life..I just don’t or want to believe this..my condolences to your family..was awake all night with this devastating news..truly hurts…he has taught us a lot about truth.as he said.The thtruth shall set us free.RIP ScottMy prayers and condolences.to the family..please can u keep in touch.he was truly a good friend..Blessing Sharon..xo
Victor’s web site WingTV.Net is down, but we have a backup of his 400+ broadcasts at http://www.VictorThorn.org There are 4 odd things: 1) Why no good bye voice recording or selfie video? Hand written suicide notes can be faked for $2.99/page by machines such as http://www.Bond.co 2) Why is his web site down? Who benefits? 3) Why would Victor drive his car from his house .5 miles to the Mt. Nittany blue trail, when he walked many miles a day early in the morning. Why were the keys left in the car? This supports the hypothesis that early in the morning hit men used the car to transport his knocked out body, then carried it up the hill top to put the gun in his hand and shoot. 4) Why didn’t Joshua call the family or 911 if a suicide was imminent? Perhaps he and his family is under threat? Is Joshua basing his conclusion on a “suicide note” that can be faked with a Bond Script machine?
I read somewhere that he said in an interview “If I am found dead it’s murder” or something to that effect.
“On Aug. 1 of this year, author Victor Thorn was found with a gunshot to the back of his head on a hiking trip. It was deemed suicide. He had just released the book Why Hillary Shouldn’t Be in the White House…”
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Can anyone confirm this?
I would say this: It helps to have God looking out for you. My two cents. Victor deserved better and my condolences to any and all who were close to him.
Don’t be a lib loon. Of course he was murdered. There have been four murdered since the DNC, only one before the convention. Just add them to the list. The WikiLeaks informant was shot in the back four times and they said it was robbery. His wallet, cellphone, and expensive watch wasn’t taken. The robbery was taking his life.
It seems to me that some of the things his brother says are unreal. Either he is in an altered state and in total denial due to his grief, or he is forced to read a script. Perhaps his family has been threatened, too. All the things he says about his brother would be good reasons to keep on living. He didn’t like death and he took his life? This interview makes me believe more that he has been murdered. He was successful, happy, and not ill. Take his life to see what’s on the other side? No way! He had work to do!
Suffice it to say, the man “doth protest too much, methinks” and I can only imagine why.
God bless him and his family.
At any rate, as a psychologist who has met many unhappy people, including a few who died of semi-deliberate suicide—like taking too many drugs, etc.—I must say the brother has persuaded me that it was not suicide, or if it was it was induced through neuro-technological creation of a mood of despair.
Seth Farber, Ph.D.
Has Lisa been heard from?
My question: his brother said how spiritual Scott was. If that be the case, I don’t think he would ever take his own life knowing that is a major sin. Would he really take that chance?
Where is the autopsy? Where is the investigation data? Please AFP, take the lead before the crime scene, satellite data, tire tracks, potential electronic threats, etc., is thoroughly destroyed. Start a fund to get the essential information before it is too late! Let’s do the kind of research Victor would be proud of, please!
I will be the first to give $200 towards the research. Where’s the link?
Boy has AFP taken a dump.
Condolences to the family.
People that are powerful enough to whack those that expose their evil and wrongdoing with impunity are certainly powerful enough to compel friends and family members to go along with the suicide story as well.
I’m not saying that the brother is absolutely lying or anything… It’s just that none of what he says really satisfies the heavily inquisitive mind as to why this could truly be a suicide.
I mean, if a person is strongly averse to death, to dying of deteriorating health, in a miserable and vulnerable state, and feels like they want to end their lives on their own terms, why kill yourself in the zenith of your career as an alternative journalist? At the age of 54, where most of us still have at least the better part of two decades left to live? Dave posed that same question and the guest answered, but that answer, while compelling just seems too weak a rationale to me.
It would be more believable to me if the story was that Victor had gone to his brother and said something like, “Look, in the circles I’m influential in, people learn really quickly to never accept claims of ‘suicide’ at face value. And while at one point in my life I might have told everyone that if I ever get suicided, look closer, it’s not as unlikely as some people might think. And should I turn up dead, I’d like you to convey that to everyone.”
Or if he’d left some kind of letter explaining his rationale.
It just boggles the mind that a guy in Victor/Scott’s line of work would choose to take his own life and do so in such a way that he knows everyone is going to be so dramatically affected by is beyond me.
Victor/Scott’s brother himself says he can’t comprehend this alleged suicide—and there are chemical cocktails and technologies in place that can make people suicidal.
There are just so many variables that Scott/Victor’s brother’s timely anecdotes and inside perspectives just do not outweigh.
Thanks so much for having Bill on, and thanks to Bill for his sharing during this difficult time. Victor introduced me to “alternative media” thru the “WING TV” shows and his numerous writings, some of which he sent to me “on credit” so I could share them with others.
His efforts helped open my eyes to the real world around us and influenced me in my own efforts to share realities through writing, audio, and video Internet offerings. He will be missed.