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The tiny Village of Jemez Springs, New Mexico, (2012 population: 253) which is located entirely within the Santa Fe National Forest, may not be on the minds of many Americans, but it should be for at least two reasons. First, Jemez Springs was the runner-up for the location of the Manhattan Project laboratory, (Los Alamos won out, hence Los Alamos National Laboratory) and second because the Village’s Council on February 12 terminated its police chief for daring to stand up to the Transportation Security Administration (TSA), the near-universally hated arm of the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) that “exercises authority over the security of the traveling public in the United States,” which was created a little over two months after the September 11, 2001 false flag attacks on America.
Seems Jemez Springs’s police chief, Shane Harger, had reached his limit with federal poking and prodding in the form of the TSA, and decided to take a stand, and demand that if he wasn’t being charged with any crimes, to be allowed to pass and board his flight, after 35 minutes of unwarranted harassment. To make matters worse, the former chief was attempting to fly from Albuquerque International Sunport to Las Vegas, Nevada, to attend a conference run by American Free Press’s longtime friend and supporter former Arizona sheriff Richard Mack.
Dave Gahary sat down with Chief Harger and Sheriff Mack, who cover all the details of this case, in this disturbing interview (30:10).
Popular New Mexico Police Chief Ousted for Standing Up to Feds
• TSA, FBI team may have targeted patriotic cop for political beliefs
By Dave Gahary
The tiny Village of Jemez Springs, New Mexico, (2012 population: 253) which is located entirely within the Santa Fe National Forest, may not be on the minds of many Americans, but it should be for at least two reasons. First, Jemez Springs was the runner-up for the location of the Manhattan Project laboratory, (Los Alamos won out, hence Los Alamos National Laboratory) and second because the Village’s Council on February 12 terminated its police chief for daring to stand up to the Transportation Security Administration (TSA), the near-universally hated arm of the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) that “exercises authority over the security of the traveling public in the United States,” which was created a little over two months after the September 11, 2011 false flag attacks on America.
Seems Jemez Springs’s police chief, Shane Harger, had reached his limit with federal poking and prodding in the form of the TSA, and decided to take a stand, and demand that if he wasn’t being charged with any crimes, to be allowed to pass and board his flight, after 35 minutes of unwarranted harassment. To make matters worse, the former chief was attempting to fly from Albuquerque International Sunport to Las Vegas, Nevada, to attend a conference run by American Free Press’s longtime friend and supporter former Arizona sheriff Richard Mack.
AFP readers are no doubt aware that Mack runs the Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers Association (CSPOA), whose mission is “to equip sheriffs, peace officers and public officials with the necessary information and public support to carry out their duties in accordance with their Oaths of Office.” In late January, Mack was holding a private conference open only to select lawmen and public officials, but not the public, and this was to be Harger’s first meeting. Less than three weeks later, Harger would be ignominiously fired from his position as chief, left to fend for himself, his wife and young son.
On February 13, the day after Harger’s termination, this newspaper conducted a 40-minute interview with both him and Mack, to gain a fuller understanding of this matter.
Harger, who’s been working in law enforcement for approximately 15 years, and has been Jemez Springs’s chief since July, 2013, explained that he “was involved in a high-profile case, and for my own protection I had to have my name changed. And so TSA sort of tried to make this the premise for their misconduct: you have two different identifications; therefore, you must be a terrorist.”
Sheriff Mack has also used another name in the past.
“I was an undercover narcotics officer at one time in my career,” he said. “I had a driver’s license that was in the name of [someone else]. It’s not an uncommon thing to have in law enforcement. First and foremost you need to know that there was nothing illegal, immoral, unethical or criminal about having a different name as Chief Harger had. It was all in the line of duty. It was to protect him from some threats that he had received.”
“After going through two or three checks on his ID,” Mack explained, “he was then signaled to go ahead. And he was getting ready to get on the plane and then in comes Gil Guadarrama, a supervisor with the TSA and he really starts to shake Chief Harger down.”
“[Guadarrama] was very stern, he was rude in his mannerisms and demanded to see ID,” said Harger. “And at that point, I very politely asserted my rights. I said I just wanted to be free to go, I’ve already presented my credentials, I’ve committed no crime, and he was gonna have none of it. He absolutely was adamant about interrogating me. And when I challenged his authority he became very upset about that and he vocalized that in the form of a threat. He said, ‘I know people in your district and I’m gonna make some phone calls, you have not heard the last of me.’ So, those phone calls were made, and I did not hear the last of him.”
“I was told that [Guadarrama] met with the sheriff of Sandoval County, Sheriff Doug Wood, that he met with Councilman Dave Ryan of the Village of Jemez Springs and one other individual from the Village of Jemez Springs…in secret. I was told by Dave Ryan that the FBI was also present and they reviewed a video and the allegation was made by Gilbert Guaderrama that I had threatened him and that I was using a false, fraudulent identification.”
The Associated Press reported on August 3, 2000 that Guaderrama has a tarnished record.
“Guadarrama used to work for the Border Patrol and he was fired,” said Mack, “because he was having sexual relations with illegal aliens, kind of a trading favors for sex scandal. He was fired and then immediately thereafter hired by the TSA and put in a supervisory role.”
Harger was terminated in light of the fact that he received a commendation, and just one day before airport incident, “over 125 citizens show up to express their gratitude for our department, how we cleaned up our town, and I was put in for a raise,” explained the former chief.
“This was my primary source of income,” explained Harger, who shuttered a successful construction company to take the police job.
When he got home the night of the firing, “it knocked the wind out of me,” he said. “I didn’t even say a word to my wife. My poor little wife, she looked at me, and she says, ‘what happened?’ And I just didn’t know how to tell her. And my son comes out of his room, he’s only eight-years-old, and he looks up at me and says, ‘Daddy, did you get fired?’ And I had to turn my head away from him; I didn’t want him to see me crying. I just had to say, ‘son, it’s gonna be okay; go on back to bed.’ I gave him a hug and he went back to bed. And I had to try and console my wife and explain to her what was going on. It’s a difficult thing,” Harger said, crying.
AFP asked Sheriff Mack if he thought this is retribution because Harger attended the conference.
“That was definitely part of it,” Mack Said. We’ve had other sheriffs and attendees be shaken down now by the FBI. Chief of Police Larry Kirk and Sheriff Michael Dixon were called by the FBI asking them if they are part of the militia movement or asking them if they are part of the sovereignty movement and asking them what their political beliefs are.”
“We’re going to assist Chief Harger with this whole investigation and hopefully file a lawsuit against Jemez Springs,” said Mack.
Dave Gahary, a former submariner in the U.S. Navy, is the host of AFP’s ‘Underground Interview’ series.
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